What is civilization?
Or rather, what counts?
Does it require no more people at all? That's no good.
Or does it exclude any kind of human cooperation? Surely we can all agree there was still civilization even when the population of humans on the planet numbered in the millions instead of billions.
Or perhaps it's not a declaration about the whole world, but rather a family in a place where there's no other people around for far enough that they can't get help from other people.
Maybe
Surely just a single family is not a civilization. Is civilization gone if they still use the things from prior civilization? Like, if they stay in a cabin built by the US Forest Service, have they really found a place away from civilization?
What is civilization.
The game, maybe. There's a game called Civilization. I play it sometimes. And we're imagining that someone gets rid of it. Or maybe they just make a personal declaration. "I will play NO MORE CIVILIZATION."
That's all that makes sense. Because as long as there are people, there will be civilization.
One thing that crosses my mind is collapse thinking. Like what if things that we rely on fall apart. Like what, though? If
Oh, I dunno. I fantasize about living on the land, homesteading, like people I see on Peakd do. Some of them, you know? But also, when I really think about it, I'm not sure what the circumstances could be that would make that the way I'd choose to ... I am not one to think self-isolating makes the world better, and I think, morally, how we make the world better is at the forefront. (but there are many ways to make the world better, and I guess people who homestead do it, too, because they are making themselves happy, and not at a cost to others, so that's a net positive for the world. So maybe that's part of why homesteading is appealing. It seems like the weight of benefit to cost when it comes to worldly good is easier to weigh.)